Tuesday, November 30, 2010

Weekly Meeting Topic: The New Points Plus Plan!

As you all know, North America is rolling out the new version of Weight Watchers this week - they are calling it the Points Plus Program. Here, my beautiful friend and fellow meeting member Malaika, shows off the new materials in our meeting tonight (yes, she is tasting the new materials as well...)

Malaika shows off the new WW materials

So many of you have asked me what I think/what does this mean/what has changed and I'll be more than happy to tell you my first impressions!

First of all, I have heard that many members seem to be having trouble embracing this change, so let me try to drill this point into your heads: You are not going to be eating radically more or radically less - you will just be counting things differently - and perhaps making different choices - healthier & better choices more often than you do now. That's all!

I've been on and off WW for 21 years now. I've seen quite a few versions of Weight Watchers in my time and no matter how they change the wording or the plan or the materials or how you track, they can't change the bottom line: You have to consume less calories than you exert in order to lose weight.  And it would probably help if you ate healthier food than you eat now, and yeah, you should move a little, too.

If you realize all of that, you will not freak out about any of the "points" values changing - "more points for this! less points for that! I'll never be able to lose weight now!" Remember: There are no such thing as "Points". "Points" aren't real - they are just a concept created by WW - a formula and number assigned to foods just to help us easily keep track of what we consume. The same way we used numbers to create time so we can keep control and order in our lives. See? Points are harmless. There is nothing to panic about.

The new Points Plus is just a slightly modified version of the previous Points formula we all know and love. We used to look at a food's calories, fat and fiber to determine its points value. With the new plan, now we look at the protein, fat, fiber and carbs. Calories aren't even a factor. If this troubles you, I assure you it is not necessary to include the calories because since a food's total number of calories comes from the protein grams (times 4) + the fat grams (times 9) + the carbohydrate grams (times 4), the calories are already being accounted for in this new formula. (Note: Fiber doesn't provide calories.) If you want to understand this more in depth or learn more about calories and macronutrients and when the 4+9+4 math doesn't add up, go here.


So what has changed?
  • Everyone gets more Points per day, or a higher DPT (Daily Points Target). Most people get 29 points per day now, but I think some members might get more than that. On the surface, that looks like a huge jump for me since I used to get 18 per day *but* some of the points of the food have increased, so 11 points on this plan is not the same as 11 points on the previous plan. I trust their math and I'm not concerned about it.
  • Fruit is zero points! Rejoice! Weight Watchers realizes that a large (formerly 2 point) banana (I'm looking at you, Tam!) is a much healthier snack for you than a (formerly 2 point) 100-calorie pack of cookies. And they want YOU to realize that too. So if you were one of those people who opted for packaged snacks instead of 'sacrificing' those same points for fruit (I used to be one of those people!), maybe this will be the gentle push to help you change some of your habits and make some healthier choices. Of course you can still have that 100 calorie pack, but my guess is that it's going to cost you more points than it used to.
  • The weekly points allowance/weekly bonus points jumped from 35 to 49. (As always, you can choose to use all, none or some of those.)
  • New stickers! My leader Melanie loves to reward us with stickers and now she has all sorts of exciting new stickers to give out. Tonight I scored the first pink sticker! It has a couch with a line through it - I guess it symbolizes that I'm not a couch potato. She gave it to me when I told the group about my Empire State Building Stair Climb event (And thank you to everyone who donated! I can't believe I raised the minimum donation in under 24 hours! You all get to know you helped me get there and will be a part of my journey that day! Thank you!) I am certainly no couch potato!
What has stayed the same?
  • Activity Points are still given (that's a relief!)
  • Tools for Living are still in full effect
  • Good Health Guidelines still make sense and should be followed
  • No food is off limits. Have whatever you want, just count for it.
How I'm moving forward/my next steps:
  • I'm not resisting the change. Resistance is futile! I'm on board with the new program and you should be too!
  • I already went to eTools and noticed some of the foods I had previously created myself need to be re-entered with the additional nutrition label data so the new points values can be calculated. I am doing that as I eat & track them.
  • I looked at some of my usual items to see what changed and what stayed the same. Some of the things that I consume on a regular basis that now have higher points values are: beer, whole wheat macaroni, avocado, soy milk, beans, whole wheat pitas. Some that stayed the same are my vegan cheese and almonds. 
What else to keep in mind:
  • Please don't abuse the fruit: I am sure it goes without say, but just because fruit is zero points now, it doesn't mean you can consume it in unlimited quantities. Portion sizes should be reasonable. Even though it's a natural & healthy snack, it still has calories. If you eat 1000 calories worth of fruit every day in addition to your other food, I assure you that you will not lose weight. You might even gain. So be smart about it. You know better.
  • Do not fear carbs! Just because they are being used in the new equation doesn't make them bad. You may find that a particular bread or cereal you normally eat has more carbs than another one you like, and you might switch. There's nothing wrong with that. In fact, I think it's good to become more familiar with what you're eating and make better choices where you can - however, do not think you need to run out and find "zero gram carb" foods. Please do not eliminate carbs!

Other Notes/Suggestions/Reminders:
  • As my leader Melanie pointed out, do not try to combine plans - this will NOT work! For instance, don't keep the "zero point fruit" from the new plan while using the old points values/daily points targets of the old plan. As I mentioned, resistance is futile. Accept the new plan and new numbers - the sooner the better.
  • Don't think you need to get rid of all the food in your house and buy new food. The first thing I would suggest you do is go through the process of learning the points values of the foods you have in your home and/or currently eat regularly. If you decide you want to make a switch here or there, go for it. But don't think you have to change everything all at once. You may not need or want to change anything, other than how you track your food.
  • Give yourself time to get used to the new plan. Learn the new points values. Enter the values into your eTools. Don't get frustrated or upset by this, you'll get used to it in no time.

That's it for my review/opinions for now. Just like everyone else, I need some time to get used to the plan to see if I have any other thoughts on it, but I'm really not worried about it at all. And since I eat pretty naturally anyway, I don't expect many of my choices to change, but it's possible I might make some changes, especially in regards to protein since that's probably the one thing I should probably make an effort to eat more of.

Good luck with Points Plus! Enjoy the new plan :) I'm sure I'll have more to report next week after I'm more familiar with it.

48 comments::

  1. I haven't attended my meeting yet (its on Saturday), but I'm really excited about the new program. I also noticed that I get more points for activity too, than I was previously! Although, I really liked the previous program, I am ready for a bit of a change.

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  2. I'm on day 2 of the new plan and it's going really well. I'm having some slight flashbacks to my brief stint doing the South Beach Diet and trying to seek out high protein foods, but I've also increased the amount of fruit I'm eating and paying a lot more attention to refined carbs, so that's good. I feel a little lost without being able to guestimate points based on calories, fat and fiber, but I'm hoping points will become more intuitive as time goes on. I'm also loving that now the online tracker will take my activity points before my weekly points. I want to eat extra only if I earn it!

    Do you have any thoughts on the 29 points for almost everyone thing? I still have at least 20lbs to lose but yet I have 29 points and will no matter how much less I weigh. That's scary to me. I'm assuming I'll have to adjust how many weekly or activity points I use as I lose weight, but it would be nicer if WW could tell me "You will lose weight if you eat less than X points per day/week."

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  3. THANK YOU. Everyone is freakin gout comparing this to the old plan. STOP COMPARING, it's a completely new plan.

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  4. I think the new plan is great.
    It's common sense that eating a package of snackwells should "cost more" than eating a fresh mango.
    I already attended a meeting today, easily followed and don't understand why people have their panties in a bunch.
    You did a GREAT job spelling it out here! (You really should become a WW leader!)
    For you as someone who has already discovered eating whole, unprocessed food makes a difference, you have an advantage which is awesome.
    People have criticized WW for not being healthy enough in the past because they think it's all frozen lean cuisines and 2 point WW bars.
    This is a great progression towards food awareness, don't you think?
    Also -- people get TOO obsessed and hung up on point values. They feel robbed! Hopefully people will embrace the reality of eating in a more balanced way.

    p.s. new Whole Foods in Brooklyn! Awesome right?

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  5. Looking at the new program last night, it made me rather glad that I have spent the last year slowly switching my eating habits already. I think this new program will be great for showing all of us those little habits that can create a healthier lifestyle.

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  6. Although I no longer follow WW plans, I am a Lifetime Member (from 10 years ago). I am very familiar with the old program.

    The new program sounds like it requires you to use some common sense in your food selections, instead of just playing the numbers game with the previous plan.

    Their premise used to be that you could "eat whatever you want", as long as it fit into the daily points allowance.

    It seems they've revamped the system to make healthier foods the focus, and I applaud them for that.

    Thanks for the update...I'm looking forward to hearing what you think of the new system as you go along.

    BTW: I LOVE that you are open to change...many, many people have already balked at this new plan. Change can be very uncomfortable for most people - especially when it comes to food. I love that you embrace change!

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  7. Nice blog BC. I've been doing the Points Plus (or ProPoints as it is in the UK) for a week now, and have found it much the same as the old plan...like you said, nothing to get bent out of shape about! 49 extra weekly points sounds great, but I've struggled to stay within my 29 daily points, so having a fall back of 49 helps. The other tactic I have employed is getting off my lardy arse and earning more points that way. I bank them all week and don't touch them...but psychologically it gives me a lift because I know they are there in the background IF I need to use them.
    Have a great week xx

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  8. I am pretty excited about the whole new plan. I deleted all of my foods I entered myself, because I didn't have any of the foods anymore to change the values. I will have to add them all in as I go along.

    It's exciting to be part of a change, isn't it?

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  9. Hi!

    We got this in Australia at the beginning of November (called ProPoints over here) overall it has been a really positive change, essentially got us off some of the more processed stuff now people don't have to 'sacrifice' for some fruit :) Love your blogs, good luck!

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  10. thank you for summing it up! I'm passing this on to friends and family :) I'm excited about the change since i definitely need a renewed spark of motivation to really do this thing again, but I totally saw scared faces in the room tonight! I'm over the moon about having 0pt bananas and 0pt honeycrisps!! xoxox

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  11. Whole Foods in Brooklyn?! I have not heard of this! Must google! (though the one on the Bowery is my favorite - very large and easy to get to, only 3 miles from me each way/20 minutes by bike)

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  12. Thanks for explaining it! I don't think just doing it online was going to help me and was hoping to pop into my old meeting to see if they would let me listen for a bit to hear more about it but after this I might not have to. THanks!

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  13. I'm pregnant so I've stopped going to weight watchers. However,I think this sounds like a good plan. When I made lifetime in 2005 I rarely counted fruit as points. I also tried to make sure I had high protein foods so I would be full longer. I think WW has the right idea.

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  14. I'm so excited for this new plan. Since I eat relatively clean, I think I've been under-eating for awhile now and that's why it's been so hard to stay within my points. With this plan, I'll be getting the proper amount of food!

    I do know that the leaders are no longer able to say Points unless they are referring to the old plan. They have to say PointsPlus. Also, while you still earn Activity PointsPlus, the formula is different. It seems that 80 cal = 1 pt.

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  15. THANK YOU for sharing your thoughts on this change. I haven't been able (financially) to attend a WW meeting since June and I wanted to know what I might be getting into should I be able to afford it again any time soon. This intrigues me.

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  16. I was skeptical about the new plan, but now I think I'm really going to like it. I did what Melanie suggested and converted a few days in the points to points plus and I'm going to be able to eat more. This is really exciting, but I'm still going to try and focus on healthy foods too!

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  17. I appreciate your input on this! I'm actually excited because I do actually choose crappy processed 100 calorie snacks instead of a banana, but now I've noticed I'm eating alot more fruit in the past couple days, and, duh, it's more filling ; ) Thanks again!

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  18. Although I never have and don't follow WW, your breakdown makes total sense to me. Hopefully those following will be able to accept the change easily.

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  19. Thanks for the review. I think it is high time WW admit that eating their little cakes and bars is not the same as eating a piece of fruit. I am going to have to make some adjustments. I calculated an old perfect day of 23 points and it equals 31 points on the new plan, when I only get 29 per day. I am excited to eat fruit guilt free but do not plan to abuse it.

    Carrie

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  20. I was all excited until I read that we still can't abuse fruit. You definitely have a point, very true, just sad. There should be some foods we can eat 24/7 and have them be free. I once heard celery was like that -- it takes more calories to chew and digest than it contains, so you could eat it constantly and not gain weight, the only true zero point food.

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  21. I am from the UK and have been on this for a few weeks now. It took me a while to get my head around the new points allowances but I have found that I am now choosing more varied food. There were some foods that I wouldn't have chosen before because they were too high in points for me (I only had 18 to play with) seem much easier to include now.

    And I am loving the free fruit :-) :-)

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  22. Thanks for the review. So many people are freaking out about this new plan. I think they are just afraid of change. I was a little skeptical at first but the new plan is great. I am so glad fruits are zero points. I'm going to my WW meeting tomorrow and I hope to learn more.

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  23. Excellent Recap of the new plan! Personally, I love the changes, as it fits better with the smart carb, high fiber, moderate protein food choices that keeps me and a million other diabetics under control and off of insulin!

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  24. Thank you so much for this wonderful review - this could have been aimed at me!! I have struggled on the new plan. I don't eat meat but don't eat tofu, quorn, etc so am struggling to increase protein. Beans & Lentils seem to have gone up in points as does pasta and rice. I have basically been eating the same as before but more fruit. Thank you - I will take on board what you have said and give it another real go!

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  25. It sounds like the US plan is now the same as the UK, we call it ProPoints and I've been doing it for 3 weeks (and lost 3lb)!
    I agree that the no point fruit is great and also that the changes really make sense, it's just a chance for us to learn anew and hopefully make even more positive changes. Enjoy it!

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  26. hey! i don't usually comment, but i've been a faithful reader for a couple months now! :)

    first off, i'm glad you're so optimistic about the plan! "if you can't get out of something, get into it wholeheartedly" is what i always think!

    secondly, can you offer your tips/inspirations/ideas in working out in the cold? i live on the east coast too, and since it's getting so bust a nut cold in virginia, i have lost any motivation to work out! i'm a vegan with a pretty big appetite, so this lack of activity has already got me gaining some weight! eek!

    i'm considering yoga, weightlifting, and i have indoor pool access, but i just HATE being outside in the cold and wet...ugh.

    so if you could help a sista (and i'm sure a lot of non-west coast readers...damn you, sunny california.) out, i would really appreciate it :)

    keep up the good work!!

    virginia

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  27. I randomly stumbled on your blog a couple of months ago, and I love it. I really enjoy your honesty and your grit. Reading your blog is generally one of my favorite parts of the week. Keep up the great work!

    Christy

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  28. I was nervous dealing with the change, but honestly - I don't think it's that bad. The worst thing was just relabeling and labeling all the food (I had to grocery shop after the meeting). But I do love the fact that fruit is free (all within moderation) - bananas are my favorite.

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  29. I loved this post! I am LOVING the new program (it's only my 2nd day on plan) but I feel like I can eat MORE! I don't second guess grabbing that apple because I might not have enough points for dinner. Love the free fruit! :) whoohoo!

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  30. Nicely put. I'm having issues with the carb-counting, just because I always said that I would NEVER count carbs. But really, it's still a great plan, and I will give it my all.

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  31. I just wanted to say thanks, I just started reading your blog a couple of weeks ago and rejoined WW last night. I always thought it was hard to eat natural and do WW (seems like that endorse a lot of processed stuff) but you have proven that it can be done. Thanks!!

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  32. I was a bit nervous about the change since the current/old plan had been working so well for me;however, I now see that PointsPlus really won't change what I am eating at all since I got tons of Points previously AND currently as a nursing mom who still has at least 30 lbs to lose. I really am tired of all the negative talk I have been reading b/c honestly the new Plan makes so much sense to me and confirms what I have been doing/how I have been eating. Thank you for your positive, encouraging post!

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  33. Thanks for explaining some about the new plan. I am SO excited that bananas are now 0 points it's silly. I think I called everyone I know who has ever been on WW to tell them bananas are now 0 points.

    I'm really excited by the changes in the plan. I've been trying to eat more 'whole' foods and less processed stuff and it seems like the new plan supports that much more.

    And I love your positive attitude about the plan, too.

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  34. After my first day of the new plan, I can finally be one of those whiners who says she can't finish her points! LOL I mainly blame this on being sick and I eventually did find a dessert item to cover those leftover points. My taco salad for dinner was absolutely massive. I am satisfied and my entire day was free of junk food (well, minus that sugar free jello mousse). I heart free fruit! Oh, and butternut squash are now 0!! This made my week!!

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  35. This might be enough to get me back on WW. I started by eating crappy highly refined "diet" food, then gradually started eating healthier foods. I began including foods high in "good" fat daily once I realized how much more satisfied I was, then I got frustrated when I realized they were worth so many more points than the 100 calorie packs, even if I ate a similar number of calories. I stopped tracking then discontinued my membership. I'm really excited about 0 point fruit!

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  36. Thanks for your take on the new plan! I was a little nervous with all the extra points (the old plan was working for me...down 17.8 lbs so far!) and 0 point fruit. I feel like I have been eating much more food since I started the new plan on Monday, but today my scale reads less than it has in about 15 years...so I'm going to trust the new plan and hope for the best! I enjoy reading your blog :)

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  37. Thank you so much for saying that a point is just something WW uses to measure. I've seen many meeting members freak out that things are more when they are just different.

    I'm so happy to eat my free fruit instead of junk!

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  38. YOU need to be a leader. The way you just explained this is perfect. I love the new plan and seem to be using way less points than before :) We'll see if works and I lose this week.

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  39. I just came to your blog via a Twitter comment by @dkirchhoff and I love your review of the new program! (love the "free" fruit). You are just about the cutest thing I've ever seen! Love the blog. Best of luck with the Empire Bld climb. I'll be sure to check back with you to see how you did.

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  40. I'm on Day 2 and absolutely love it! I feel so much more satisfied and I'm 100% on board. I'll see at next Wed's weigh in how it all goes. But I love it and think this is a more honest approach to food.

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  41. Hi Sheryl,
    I went to my WW meeting today and I think that I should have no problem with the new program. I like the fact that I get more points now and that fruits and most veggies are 0 points. I was kinda worried that I wouldn't like the new program but my leader has been raving about how great it is for weeks now. I can't wait this weekend to sit down and look over the materials that I was given today. Also, I want to thank you for the advice you gave me last week about trying the program. Have a great weekend.

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  42. Just discovered your blog via the CEO of WW himself (@dkirchhoff) on Twitter and I gotta say that I love your breakdown.

    Especially the bit about "there's no such thing as a point"!

    So many people at the meeting were freaking out but in just a few days I feel like I'm eating a lot of the same things, but I have more flexibility in snacks and am less hungry and more satisfied.

    For example, I love to have a piece of low fat string cheese and some triscuits for an afternoon snack but on the old plan there just weren't enough points in my day to justify the 4 points. Now, I have the flexibility to have a small but satisfying snack here and there.

    And even though they tell you to only weigh once a week, I was curious and couldn't help it - I lost two pounds in my first three days!

    I just added your blog to my list of regular follows! Looking forward to your thoughts/opinions in the coming weeks!

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  43. Great post! I love the new plan. I've been on it since Sunday and have lost 6 pounds. I'm shocked! I've been eating better than ever. But in true WW style, I was able to have wine and cheetos and cookies... Although not at the same time.

    Thanks for your blog. It's been a constant source of inspiration for me.

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  44. Finally am making the conscious choice and effort to do WW for myself, and only for myself. Thank for being in inspiration!

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  45. Question- how many points is skim milk now, with the new program?

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  46. Nice Blog: Thanks for sharing this post.Your new plan is very interesting.Good work. Keep it up.

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  47. I'm pretty confused on the alcohol calculations. for example, Grey Goose vodka has 0 fat, carbs, fibre or protein, so using the calculator it says 0 points. now if you search 'vodka' it clearly states 4 points?
    Strange no?

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  48. Anon- there are sugar alcohols in any alcoholic drink. 1gram of sugar alcohol is 7 calories. So you need to use the WW database for anything that has alcohol in it to properly calculate points the points. Keep in mind many "sugar free" foods have sugar alcohols in them. The US does not require manufactures to list sugar alcohols and the points plus calulator we use does not have an option for sugar alcohols so when in doubt use the WW database. Hopefully the plan tweaks at the end of the year this year will fix this.

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