Monday, June 06, 2011

Body Image and a Reality Check

I once tweeted a reminder to LOVE YOUR BODY - not for what it looks like, but for what it can do. I think it's so important to do at every stage of your journey and life, really. Because I think most people (myself included) can easily get distracted by what our bodies look like, or don't look like, and what we *wish* they looked like. 

I mention this because in all likelihood, no matter what you currently weigh, or what weight you may reach, you will probably never look like the idealized version of yourself. That fantasy body that you envision in your head will likely always be that - a fantasy. Because of that, I think it's important to remember your body's main function is not as a physical showpiece, it's an amazing piece of machinery that moves you around and performs thousands of tasks every single day. 

I think one body image hurdle most of us struggle with are stretch marks and cellulite. It surprises me how often people ask me if I have them, as if I'm superhuman and immune to these things. Of course I do! More than you can imagine!

I first noticed stretch marks when I 11 years old, and cellulite not long after that. Many of you have asked me what I do about them? I'll tell you: Nothing. They are there and I live with them. Just because you don't see them in photos doesn't mean I don't have them. But I also want to point out that both conditions are genetic as well as weight related - I've seen women much bigger than I ever was with smooth beautiful skin. And I've seen women much thinner than I'll ever be with more stretch marks and cellulite than I have. I had them at 208 pounds, and I have them at 138 pounds. But I'd still rather be a healthy & happy 138 pounds, than an obese and depressed 208.

I don't think anyone likes having them, but this is where a little reframing comes in: at the end of the day, neither of these things matter. They don't make you a bad person, they don't make you a failure, they don't devalue you as a human being. They are both merely a cosmetic issue that we've been trained to feel bad about so that 'miracle creams' and surgeries could be sold. (Side note: I think most products/services are sold to us by making us feel inferior and playing into our vanity - what we should/could look like. And stretch marks and cellulite are just two more things that ad agencies have taught us are wrong! - the enemy! - and that we should hate and therefore do everything to rid ourselves of.)

Not to get too far off on a tangent, but this ties in regarding advertising -

I was standing in line at a drug store recently and a teenage girl was in line behind me with her mother. The girl looked at a promo for lipstick - you know the kind of ad I'm talking about. It had an extreme close up of a stunningly beautiful woman's face. Her skin was flawless, pore-less, smooth. She had the most beautifully painted on red lips and perfect eye makeup and hair. The girl said to her mother "Do you think she's photoshopped?" I was waiting to hear the mother's reply. She either ignored the daughter's question or replied so silently that I missed it but I wanted to turn around and tell that young girl:
"Yes! A thousand times yes, she is photoshopped! She is photoshopped to within an inch of her life! No one looks like that! Even THAT MODEL doesn't look like that! Do not compare yourself to these images because you will never attain that look! You will only be disappointed when you can never live up to an impossible beauty standard! None of these women look like what you see in magazines and on the internet! It's a false reality used to make you feel bad about yourself and buy their products!"
I'm sure we all know/realize that deep down, but how often do we still find ourselves getting sucked into that fantasy and buying those products? Every image you see in print or online is probably retouched in some way - at least a little, if not a LOT. Not only will you never look as 'perfect' as the images you see but even those people in the photographs don't look like that! Do you realize that? They've been enhanced and had all their 'flaws' (what someone else decided was a flaw) digitally removed. The size and shapes of various parts of them have been changed to meet someone's?? ideal. But those images are not real. (Note: I have never retouched/changed any of my photos other than cropping & lightening or darkening them. However, there are plenty of photos that I don't upload because I don't like what they show) So if you're comparing yourself to those images, realize that you will likely always find reasons to dislike your own body. It's not healthy. And it's not even real! Remind yourself those images are fabricated and stop expecting to look like them.

The thing is, no matter how much any of us workout or what we weigh, we are likely never going to look like whatever ideal we have in our head (whether it's a celebrity, our former selves or some other imaginary version of us). If we have stretch marks and cellulite, we will probably always have them. Even at goal weight. So I think the first thing we need to do is understand that and have realistic expectations. Because all we can do is eat better and move more; but we have little to no control over what our bodies will look like as a result of that work.

So instead of being disappointed that you don't look a certain way, I want you to reframe it: The next time you find yourself saying negative things about your body because of what it looks like, I want you to see all the ways your body is amazing - think of all the things it does for you in a single day: it keeps your heart beating and keeps you alive, it gets you around from place to place, it walks, it drives, it bends, reaches, grabs, writes, sews, paints, draws, plays instruments, runs, bikes, swims, jumps -  it picks up and holds your kids & your loved ones. Your body is a truly amazing thing - a functional work of art.

And the next time you catch yourself saying negative things about your body, become aware of it and stop it. Stop it immediately and undo that script. Instead, marvel at your body for WHAT IT CAN DO. Tell yourself 3 or 5 things that are amazing about your body.

This is something I only began doing myself in the last year or so and reframing it in this way has helped me tremendously because even though I reached goal and love aspects of my physical body, it will never be the "ideal" body I have in my mind, no matter how much weight I lose or how much I work out.

I hope that every one of you reading this makes it a goal to work on this too. You may not be able to change certain aspects of your physical self, but you *can* change the way you think about them and accept them, at least eventually. But just like everything else, you will only get there if you begin to work on making that change. And just like everything else - you can do it, you can make that change. If you believe you can. So believe. And do it! Your body is amazing and you need to see that - even if you don't see it in the mirror. Yet.

62 comments::

  1. Great post. Love the reframing and changing the way you think aspects, so true for many aspects of life, not just our weight/bodies.

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  2. GREAT post! I've been "reframing" for months and I've gotten SO much better at appreciating my body (still have a long way to go, but I'm constantly working on both the inside and the outside).

    I did have a chuckle when you brought up cellulite and stretch marks because two things about those two things that I've always found comfort in are:

    1.) I saw Goldie Hawn on a boat in Jamaica about fifteen years ago and SHE had cellulite. Since then, I haven't really been upset about my own or the cellulite of others. If it can happen to her, it means it's normal. And I love that thought. :)

    2.) I love my stretch marks. If I didn't have them, then that would mean my body wouldn't have carried two baby boys. Just like my laugh lines and crows' feet...they are marks that show where I've been in life. I do embrace them. :)

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  3. For the most part I agree completely with what you have to say except when people say 'you'll never look like a celebrity', because celebrities are human. They are not photoshopped in real life, when they turn up to an awards ceremony or what have you, they haven't been photoshopped. I think people forget that looking like Dita von Teese is essentially do-able because SHE did it. I don't like it when people say 'well you'll never get your hair like so-and-so because she has a stylist' because the stylist managed it? The stylist is a human being, and if nobody could do it, stylists wouldn't exist.

    sorry if that didn't make sense and sorry if i sound like i'm picking at things, it's just one of those things that bugs me aahaha :) xx

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  4. This is a powerful reminder; thank you!!
    Xo
    sunny

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  5. I read your blog often, but I don't usually comment. I love this post. I've been struggling with this specific topic a lot lately. It's nice to know that other people have the same struggles, thoughts, concerns, etc. Thanks for the reminder to love me for who I am and what I can do already, not what I wish I was or what I wish I could do!

    Sarah
    notaneffingdiet.blogspot.com

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  6. I love this post! As a WW who has lost 50 lbs in the last year, I have my share of body "flaws," but I've been working on reframing them, too.

    Not long after I changed my eating habits I started getting more and more varied types of exercise, and even started kayaking with my husband. Last weekend we were out in the kayaks and he commented, "Wow, your back and arms are looking great!" Now, this is a man not prone to making either good or not-so-good comments about my physical form; he's always been supportive and accepting of me no matter what I weigh, but this got his attention. I was happy before, feeling good on the water and in the sunshine, paddling away, and his comment just made me want to paddle faster and harder!

    The point is, the more you move, the better your body serves you. And the better it serves you, the better you will feel about it, no matter what "flaws" you might think you have. I've started to feel much more confident about wearing shorts, baring my arms, etc. since I've put my body to better use, and it's fun to think of new ways to challenge it.

    It is, as you say, an amazing thing!

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  7. I never realized how bad airbrushing and photoshop was until I saw this:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2gD80jv5ZQ

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  8. Hi Annie: My point is that Dita Von Teese might look like Dita Von Teese (and she looks amazing), but no matter how hard anyone else tries, they are never going to look like her. They can look like the best version of themselves possible, and maybe have her hair style or a similar look, but they will never look like her or any other celebrity they wish to look like. No matter how many calories you cut, workouts you do, you'll never have her (or anyone else's) exact body/skin/face. I hope that helps clarify my thought.

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  9. Two years ago, on my wedding day, I weighed a staggering 240 lbs at 5'4". I have "only" lost 20 lbs in 2 years (but kept it all off, so wee for maintained!)

    I do not look too different, physically. I still have big thighs, arms, and a belly that sticks out. However, because I have accepted what I look like now, and stopped being depressed because I couldn't do XYZ or I don't weigh 150 lbs, I have more confidence. I dress with more color. I do my hair, make up, and I wear cute glasses. I feel so much better about myself, as a whole person, rather than just a number on the scale. While I still want to lose weight, I am having fun finding "me" again and I'd much rather focus on that than getting depressed over the scale.

    Life doesn't always go the way you plan but have fun with it anyway. It takes so much more energy to be negative and depressed than it does to be truly happy and carefree.

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  10. I think once we find that we can be compassionate to ourselves that there is a lot of freedom in claiming that. It's a daily act but I find it is so worth it. Sure I may not like what I see in the mirror, but I try and pause and ask why? Why do I feel that way? Normally it comes back to something small, insignificant, something no one would ever see, even my man.

    Thanks for the reminder!

    PS I saw you while I was on vacation in NYC a week ago, I was a little too star struck to say "Hi, I read your blog and you look even better in person."

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  11. Thank you so much for this! I've been reading your blog for months and have found it so helpful in reframing. I have moments where I channel my inner you while running and think how amazing it is that my body can do this! I've been on WWers and am down 33lbs - almost at goal - but have been wondering if I should "try for more" because of the image in my head. But you're right - that image will never be real, and I need to find a happy weight that works with my lifestyle. Thank you!

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  12. Pheonmenal post. It is difficult, but vital, that we appreciate what our bodies are capable of instead of focusing solely on our vanity-based insecurities. I particularly appreciated your aside about marketing and how advertisers make money by creating and capitalizing upon our insecurities. I wrote a whole post on this concept, which I called the cultivation of need, while I was on a cosmetics no-buy. If you would like to check it out, here is the link: http://powerfemme.blogspot.com/2011/04/beautiful-brains-cultivation-of-need.html

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  13. jen in AnnapolisJune 06, 2011

    Thank you so much for this! I was just commenting to a friend how horrible I looked in the race photos from this weekend. I read this and changed from "ew" to "wow, I just finished a 10k!"

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  14. I've started going to Yoga. I took a particularly challenging class the other day and the instructor was talking about thighs. I thought of you because she practically quoted your post about learning to love your thighs for what they can do for us.

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  15. Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is such an awesome, much needed, so very true post! I have such a hard time with what I look like so often, but I am truly proud of what my body can do. And as I push and improve what my body can do, I am noticing that I am slowly starting to feel better about how it looks too. :)

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  16. Some great points here! I too remember having stretch marks ever since I had my growth spurt at age 11 but I live with it. I recently decided no more hiding them behind boy short bathing suites and bought a regular bathing suite!

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  17. I've been a long time reader and have never commented before, but wanted to thank you for this post. It really hit home for me.

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  18. *amen* for all that :D shout it from the rooftops! x x

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  19. Thank you so much for this. Love your blog!

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  20. I absolutely LOVE this post. Thanks for the healthy reminder that there is nothing wrong with having cellulite and stretch marks!

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  21. It's like you've read my mind, I've had a terrible week recently for body image - I see things in the mirror which I know are lies!

    Thank you for this incredible post, it's just what I needed. :)

    x

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  22. Even if that celebrity looks like that at the Oscars, it's only because sixteen people all made a living wage plus benefits to get them to look like that for one night only. And when they get home and the glue and fake hair and makeup washes off ... they're us underneath.

    "Dita did it" because Dita is the focus of a combined thousand man-hours of attention by trained professionals whose combined salaries would leave us in the dust, all to get her to look a certain way for less than four hours. Dita didn't do anything. She did not sit by her bathroom mirror and put that eye makeup on by herself, I can guarantee it.

    People often get catty over unretouched pictures of celebrities, but I also find them reassuring. The rest of us all look pretty damn good, you know?

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  23. "your body's main function is not as a physical showpiece" It's sad when the person who treats us the most like a piece of meat is ourselves.

    It's hard to reconcile the fact that my body will never be the ideal that I have in my head. To keep sane, I have to focus on the positive instead of continuing to dwell on the negative. A lot of good that's going to do for me!

    I will work on this because you told me to! :)

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  24. Continually inspiring!

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  25. I love this post, its so good, and so right. I havent really thought about the different things my body does for me. I always focus on the bits i dont like, but one of things ive learnt in my self esteem sessions is that positive thinking is important, and i think this is a great way to be positive about your body. So thank you for the inspiration.

    I also want to say i do agree with you about never being 100% happy with your body. Although we can visualise how skinny we'd like to be it never works out that way. Your always be able to find something you dont like.

    xx

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  26. AnonymousJune 06, 2011

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hibyAJOSW8U

    Sheryl- You have to watch this Dove commercial. Once I saw it, I never viewed ads or magazines the same way again! Your story of the girl in line made me think of it. It's really neat to see. True beauty is such a thing of the past and it's so sad!

    Michele

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  27. This post was exactly what I needed today. I've been reading for a long time, but never comment. Thank You!

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  28. Sheryl,

    Thanks for this post, it's awesome! Funny you talk about the Photoshopping, I wrote my Masters thesis about the effect the Feminine Ideal (read: photoshopping and other altering of advertisement photos) and the effects it has on the mental health of women. I got so many questions when I presented, because people logically know things like pores and tear ducts (Seriously!) get taken off of pictures, but they still use the pictures as an ideal.

    They should really be describes as "illustrations" of a woman (or man, really), rather than a picture.

    But again, thanks. :)

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  29. Just thought I should let you know that my girlfriend and I are truly inspired by you and we have decided to take up riding our bikes as our workout routine! It is so much fun and really works up a good sweat! :D We will continue to use you as our inspiration!

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  30. beautiful powerful post and definately one we all struggle with. at 300+ i was a mess and had got to the point my body simply couldn't function. at 220 i can do anything i want. the body truly is a wonderful magical machine. and i do have stretch marks but i really don't care, i'll take stretch marks over blubber any day! thanks for this darlin it's something everyone needs to hear..........and stretch marks, cellulite and all you're always gonna be my beautiful sweet "babs" ruler of the universe!

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  31. <3 it. Definitely something I needed to read...and re-read. Daily :D

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  32. Sheryl - as always you are inspiring and the voice of reason. This is such a great post. When I was on holiday recently, I was looking at people in bikinis (need to stop comparing myself to others) and thinking she's fatter than me but she looks better than me, and she's skinny but she looks miserable. And it's simple - the people who look great, have confidence in their bodies, they don't worry if this bit jiggles or if that bit wobbles, they don't spend their day trying to hold their tummy in or sit a certain way to not show their lumps and bumps, they just enjoyed their bodies and got on with having a great holiday. Lesson learned! x

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  33. Our bodies are amazing. They grow people, they protect us instinctively. You can't nourish something you don't love right!?

    I love this post so much I've given you an award over at my blog, The Sunshine Award! http://weightwars.co.uk/2011/06/07/squeeeeeeeeeeeeee-i-won-an-award/

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  34. I really needed to read this today! You have got it spot on in this post - its ridiculous how much time we spend trying to perfect ourselves and then feel like a failure because 'it hasn't worked' we all know that models in magazines have been excessively photoshopped but that doesn't seem to stop us striving to look a certain way or hating that we have different 'imperfections'. Thank you for sharing this today you definitely put a smile on my face! And I want to tell you... YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL!!!
    (I liked this post so much i am going to post a link to it on my blog! i hope you don't mind)
    Keep up the good work!
    Sam xx

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  35. Great post. I wish I had worked out earlier just how much airbrushing goes on. I could have improved my self image/esteem earlier if i had known no one really looks like that.
    As for celebrities looking like celebrities - it takes botox and dermal fillers and skin resurfacing and hair extensions to look like they do which reminds me to be happy with what i look like naturally.

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  36. I just turned 40. I look great. I'm fitter than when I was 18. I weigh less than when I got married. But I look at my butt and see SAGGY. I got on the scale the other day, and then looked in the mirror and realized that I have a 40 year old butt, and for a 40 year old butt it's looking pretty good and I can't expect it to look like a 20 year old butt. For some reason, that turned the whole thing around for me. Now I appreciate my good-looking-for-40-years-old butt :)

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  37. Thanks for this blog post I'm 6 months pregnant and have been really struggling to deal with my changing body and the natural increase in weight. I have recently been trying to tell myself what a wonderful job my body is doing for me - I have so far had a very straight forward pregnancy I am still walking and swimming lots and all because my body is coping incredibly well with all the stresses and strains put on it growing a baby.

    This post as reminded me to carry on doing this and to be grateful for my body instead of being depressed as it changes.

    Thanks,

    Suzie

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  38. This is amazing and so true. Thank you for putting the words to it . . .

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  39. Hi Sheryl

    I love all your posts but the last three have been the most incredible! (I guess every time I read one it will be the MOST incredible...)

    Your writing is beautiful, the way you live your life is inspirational and your spirit moves me.

    Thank you for sharing you!

    It means SO much to me.

    Ev

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  40. Hi Sheryl

    I have loved every single post but the last three have been the most incredible. (I suppose every time I read one IT will be the MOST incredible!)

    You are such an inspiration. I love the way you live your life.

    Thank you for sharing you!

    It means so much to me.

    Best!
    Ev

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  41. Mike from DCJune 07, 2011

    I hope you don't mind a guy commenting here. Sorry to intrude ladies :)
    My wife reads your blog and finds it inspirational, I never understood her interest in blogs, sorry but many are just girls trying to out-do each other, they all look very much alike, they all shop at the same stores,get the same tattoos and talk about what they buy.
    But I happened to click on you blog and read your post today and was amazed.
    Thank you for this post.
    Thank you for my wife and my sister and for all the women that I know and love.
    My sister is getting her PhD in Women's Studies so I have been exposed to this kind of thing my entire life, the idea of advertising being used to make women feel bad about themselves.
    It is THE thing in the world that my sister hates the most and blames for the modern problems with women and young girls.
    She did a paper recently on girls as young as five saying that they are fat and ugly. Watching what she taped was terrifying. These beautiful little girls, all unique, all smart and funny and just adorable and they already disliked things about themselves.
    What a world right?
    But ladies they are trying to sell you something.
    Think of that every time you turn on the TV, even the shows themselves are trying to sell you something, a lifestyle, a product, SOMETHING.
    My wife has this idea that if she finds the right purse or lipstick or pair of shoes than her life will be perfect, and she has this idea that if she weighs a certain amount or sees the "right" number on the scale it will make her a better person, a happier person.
    That's NOT her talking and all of these doubts and fears and trying to be like someone else isn't any of you talking.
    Women it is NOT who you are deep down inside.
    It's advertisers. They are behind TV and movies and magazines. They are trying to sell something.
    Stop buying it.
    You are ALL perfect the way you are. You don't need to weigh a certain amount, or have the right items. Love who you are.
    This was a great post, thank you.
    Sorry again to intrude.

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  42. I love this. Thank you a million times over. Awesome, awesome post.

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  43. AnonymousJune 07, 2011

    Thank you for posting this! I beat myself up all the time and have been trying to make self-love more of a priority. I suffered from an eating disorder when I was a teen and I was definitely swayed by the image of the "perfect" woman in the media.

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  44. Hello!!!! again....

    I have missed you for far too long. I changed my Blog as my life took a drastic turn. I am expecting my first baby girl in September and what used to be a priority {Tea, Fashion and Weightloss} has not swicthed {Health, Tea, Fashion and EVENTUALLY Weightloss}. You are my main motivation in life and I hope you know that.

    I am now following from my New Blog Little Miss Mama and would LOVE for you to pop by when you get a moment between your BUSY BUSY life! Looking forward to playing CATCH UP from what I have missed of you!

    XO
    Tairalyn

    www.Little-Miss-Mama.blogspot.com

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  45. Thank you so much for this post. It is perfect timing that I read that!

    I don't think it matters what you weigh. Even after reaching Lifetime at WW, I still struggle with insecurities. I just have to think how far I have come and that I can finish my Zumba class without feeling like I want to die!!!

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  46. I love it. I needed this today too. I keep forgetting that regardless of my weight, I have improved my fitness level x 100! And now I focus on my muscles! And, I love the cellulite comments. You can weigh 100 lbs and have cellulite, it's genes man.

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  47. great post as always!
     
    i personally love my stretch marks as it shows me a reminder of how far i've come!
     
    don't get me wrong sometimes i'd like to have flawless skin but i know i'm never gonna be perfect, or at least perfect in what society deems, and frankly i don't want to be perfect in their eyes as long as i'm perfect in mine!!

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  48. I would imagine that some of you ladies might appreciate the following blog: http://curveappeal.tumblr.com/

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  49. This post reminds me of a book I recently read about a model documenting the business and the diet industry
    HUNGRY, by Crystal Renn
    Thank you for your candor. What I find myself is that anytime I say "that's bad" in connection to my body (how far I CAN't run, or a buldge or skinny arms) I am just enslaving myself to a man made measuring stick that isn't"truth" at all.
    http://thespecialktreatment.wordpress.com

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  50. You are gorgeous and such a great writer!! I love this blog. Thank you for taking the time to write this.

    All the best,
    Voe.
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    Ps. the comment above mine is so sweet.

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  51. Yes! to love yourself, start by loving yourself xoxox

    Thank you, as always!

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  52. Sheryl, THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS is why I am so excited to have you on the show tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Can not wait!
    Have a PRETTY day!
    Kristin

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  53. Awesome post. I love your suggestion to marvel over what you body CAN DO. I know my body isn't perfect, and I've slowly been losing weight and changing my life for the better, but I am so glad that I know enough to appreciate the good parts of me. I might be a bit of a cow, but damn I've got nice hips, great legs, fabulous eyes, and a spectacular ass! Three cheers for self love!
    http://driftwoodandsealingwax.blogspot.com/

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  54. wow, love this subject, this is so true!!!
    I hope I will be able to let my daughter know that so she will not try to be like these *fake* women on the ads...

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  55. Great post and so true on all fronts. Thank you for touching on a subject that I needed desperately right now. You're the bomb!

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  56. I'm covered in stretch marks...I'm starting to think of them as battle scars! I'm winning the battle, and they're a reminder of how strong I am. This was a great post, thank you for sharing!

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  57. You are one cool lady and I too am on ww and have lost 20 lbs. You can find me at ww blog (dcresider) or my own blogger although I'm new to this blogging stuff. You're blog is so much more interesting than mine. FYI - I found your blog via Ephemera's blog. Keep posting. This is so much fun.

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  58. I gifted you a "Stylish blogger" award. You can view it here. http://getskinnygovegan.blogspot.com/2011/06/glen-beck-his-full-leather-bodysuit.html

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  59. I mention this because in all likelihood, no matter what you currently weigh, or what weight you may reach, you will probably never look like the idealized version of yourself.

    So true. One of the most disappointing things about losing 38lbs last year was that while my body looked much better, (and more like my younger self), it was still my body type - flatt butt, big boobs, and not very defined waist. We get so fixated on the weight loss goal, we forget that even thin, we generally maintain the same figure, and models/actresses that have "perfect" bodies are a genetic rarity, making up less than 5% of the population.

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  60. Growing up (and for the longest time) I don't think I ever had a real, hard-core, body-issue problem. But. I got bigger than I wanted to be (overweight) and when I was, I was much much much easier prey for those negative body-image messages. And even when I got back to what-is-today my "happy weight", I found myself so much more prone to nitpicking my body to death and hating on parts of it.

    But.

    Getting to work with psychologists who deal with body image - reading all their material for my job, not actually as a patient - has helped me realize that I am not alone in this weird new feeling. And reading bloggers like yourself and others who are honest that even in "success" they have a hard time loving themselves has reinforced that.

    Knowing that it's not just something in me and that other women (and men!) feel this way too, helps me recognize it when those disordered thoughts come along (in my own head, from the mouths of friends, in the media, etc) and fight back with positive thoughts like the ones you have on here today.

    So, um, short version: Great Post!

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  61. That's a cool post. As A man I think us fellas starting to feel the pressure to be "perfect"(that the ladies have long known) more and more.

    You're right, it makes so much sense to appreciate where we are at, wherever that is.

    Michael

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